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"Illegal Guns Flood Britain"

The article below was brought to my attention by an American friend. He thought it evidence that the UK gun ban would be struck down. However he fails to appreciate that the handgun ban wasn't about armed crime, it was about disarming the law abiding citizen. The Home Office are quoted here as confirming that the post-Dunblane gun ban wasn't about armed crime but are clearly expecting us to imagine that if Hamilton had used illegal guns that the gun-banners (which most emphatically includes the Executive) wouldn't have used that as an excuse for disarming the law-abiding. And I was born yesterday.

As for the UK Customs claiming guns aren't being smuggled in large numbers - well sure and we grow cocaine and opium in large quantities in the UK too.

Regarding the comments from the Gun Trader Association representative, I have no sympathy - no-one in the gun trade in UK has ever stood up for the right to keep and bear arms that I can ever remember.

The point is that the people who want "gun control" believe that the state should have the monopoly of the legitimate use of force - Stalin and Hitler would be quite comfortable with that of course. Making the individual defenceless will not, can never, make the individual safer but it does make the individual a lot easier to control, either as an individual or as a part of a larger community.

Johnny <johnny@dvc.org.uk>


THE TIMES 16th January 2000

Killings rise as 3 million illegal guns flood Britain

Jon Ungoed-Thomas

Up to 3 million illegal guns are in circulation in Britain, leading to a rise in drive-by shootings and gangland-style executions, new figures have revealed.

Police are concerned that the amnesty after the massacre of schoolchildren in Dunblane in 1996, which led to 200,000 weapons being handed in, has failed to dent the underworld's supply of pistols and revolvers.

Criminals have maintained a steady flow of smuggled guns from eastern Europe, exhibition weapons reactivated in illegal "factories" run by underworld dealers, and guns stolen from private collections.

The estimate that 3m guns are illegally held in the UK - made by researchers collecting evidence for a parliamentary inquiry into the gun trade - is far higher than previously thought. The vast stockpiles of weapons have fuelled the recent spate of shootings in cities including London, Birmingham and Manchester, where a 17-year-old was killed last week.

Research suggests that in some areas a third of young criminals, classed as those aged 15 to 25 with convictions, own or have access to guns ranging from Beretta sub-machineguns to Luger pistols, which can be bought from underworld dealers for as little as £200.

"There is a move from the pistol and the shotgun to automatic weapons,"

said Detective Superintendent Keith Hudson, of the national crime squad.

"We are recovering weapons that are relatively new - and sometimes still in their boxes - from eastern European countries."

In London there were more than 20 fatal shootings last year allegedly Linked with the Yardies, gangsters who have their roots in Jamaica, compared with nine killings in 1998. In one, Andy Balfour, 32, was shot with a Mac 10 sub-machinegun, which can fire 20 rounds a second. He was hit eight times. Last July Tim Westwood, a BBC hip-hop disc jockey, was shot by a man who opened fire on the car in which he was travelling in Kennington, south London.

Killings in Manchester included the death last week of Gabriel Egharevba, 17, who was shot by a man on a motorbike in Longsight. It was the eighth fatal shooting in the city in seven months.

In April 1998 two youths aged 14 and 17 were shot in the same area by a gang with automatic machineguns. Detectives say modern weapons are fast becoming fashion accessories among young drug dealers protecting themselves and their territory. Unarmed officers say they risk confronting teenagers on mountain bikes brandishing automatic weapons.

In Birmingham there have been about 100 crimes a month involving firearms since last March, compared with 88 a month in the year ending in April 1998. Two men were shot dead in Birmingham in separate incidents at Christmas.

Anti-gun campaigners hoped the handgun ban after Dunblane - where Thomas Hamilton shot dead 16 children and a teacher - would reduce firearm crime. The latest figures, however, show crime involving weapons is on the increase.

Home Office figures reveal that, overall, armed crime rose 10% in 1998.

There were 13,671 armed offences compared with 12,410 the previous year. Experts, however, believe that only half the weapons used in armed incidents are genuine firearms, the others being imitations.

Opponents of the handgun ban implemented after Dunblane say it has failed to cut gun crime because of the multiple sources of weapons available to the criminal underworld. Firearms experts say more research is needed to assess the source of the weapons accurately.

Kate Broadhurst, a researcher at the Scarman Centre, said:

"Controls on legally held firearms are clearly unlikely to have much of an impact."

Customs officers do not believe smuggled guns account for the bulk of criminal weapons. Criminals instead rely on reactivating decommissioned guns, such as the 9mm Uzi or MAC 10, or supplies from corrupt dealers. Home Office officials insist the legislation has cut off an important supply of guns to the underworld. They say the handgun ban was never intended to combat firearms-related crime, but was a direct response to Dunblane, which involved legally held handguns.

"It is lunatic that a handgun ban was imposed which even the Home Office accepts won't reduce crimes involving firearms."

said Chris Price, chairman of the Gun Trader Association.

"It's not the criminals that have suffered, but legitimate gun users and gun traders."

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Posted: 7 Mar 2000